Mulberry - Shangri La (NW at road)

Botanical Name: Morgus nigra 'Shangri La'

Planted on 2018-09-30 (7 years ago)

2018-02-04 (7 years ago)

Starting a new experiment today. I got these cuttings from Todd around 10 days ago at the AZRFG Scion Exchange. I've scarified the bottom few inches of these cuttings and dipped that part of the cutting in Take Root Rooting Hormone and put them into a cup of water.

...and then after 7 days
2018-02-11 (7 years ago)

A week later and the buds are swelling and going green and about to open into leaves. This is expected and happened last year as well so no excitement yet. The acid test is whether or not these cuttings develop roots.

...and then after 6 days
2018-02-17 (7 years ago)

The Shangri La mulberry cuttings in the cup are producing berries but still no sign of any roots yet.

...and then after a day
2018-02-18 (7 years ago)

On closer inspection it looks like the cuttings have root nodules.

...and then after 6 days
2018-02-24 (7 years ago)

Weekly image of progress on cuttings. Tons and tons of fruit growing on the cuttings. More than I think I've ever seen before on a cutting and I think they outnumber the leaves. The top half of the cuttings are doing really well. The bottom half still have root nodules on them but those don't seem to have progressed beyond last week. Also looks like there's a bit of algae on some of the root nodules. Not sure if the algae is a good or bad thing...

...and then after 8 days
2018-03-04 (7 years ago)

Still no roots and lots of algae looking substance on the lower half of the plants. I've recovered the lower half of the cuttings with rooting hormone and changed the water in the cup to fresh water. This may have been a big mistake. Time will tell...

...and then after 6 days
2018-03-10 (7 years ago)

Images:

  • These cuttings are looking super healthy and the leaves are getting bigger than I recall for cuttings like these.
  • I can't work out if this white gunk rooting hormone that's at the root area is beneficial or detrimental at this stage.
  • The rightmost (from previous image) and longest of the cuttings has been taken out of the cup for a planting experiment.
  • This cutting has been planted in a pot and placed under the Thai Sapodilla and attached to its water system. I don't hold out much hope for this but let's see...
...and then after 2 days
2018-03-12 (7 years ago)
  • Treated with "Vitamin B-1 Plus Minor Elements and Chelating Agents"
  • 2 tablespoons in 1 gallon of water in a watering can and soaked the root area.
  • Did this to the 2 patches of lasagna cuttings in the NW section as well as the cutting that has just been transplanted into a pot.
...and then after 5 days
2018-03-17 (7 years ago)
  • Leaves appear to be significantly bigger from the cuttings in the cup.
  • Still no roots.
  • The cutting-in-a-pot is still doing okay and is alive. I don't think the leaves on this cutting are growing as fast as her sisters that remained in the cup.
...and then after 8 days
2018-03-25 (7 years ago)

The cuttings in the cup are still doing really well even though there are no signs of roots.

...and then after 5 days
2018-03-30 (7 years ago)

Not looking nearly as healthy as the others that are still in water.

Height estimated from image.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 8"
...and then after a day
2018-03-31 (7 years ago)

The only mulberry left on the cuttings is starting to gain some color.

...and then after a day
2018-04-01 (7 years ago)

That same mulberry from the cutting a day later.

...and then after 3 days
2018-04-04 (7 years ago)

The three cuttings left in the cup got transfered from there to pots of soil today. This happened because they've started to smell rank.

Images:

  • I ate the mulberry that fell off the cutting. It tasted okay/average in the grand scheme of mulberries but the fact that I ate this from a cutting that I put in water on 4th Feb I think is pretty amazing.
  • After two months there are still no roots on these cuttings, just nodules.
  • The ripe mulberry before it fell off the cutting.
  • All three cuttings before potting. The one in the middle is the one with the mulberry and also the one with wilted leaves. I think this one will die.
  • After potting and running irrigation to them.
...and then after 4 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 9 days.
2018-04-08 (7 years ago)

As predicted the second from the left is dead. I'll leave this one in place as the roots might continue to grow and the tree might continue to live although very unlikely.

The other three are doing as well as can be expected.

Height estimated from image.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 9"
...and then after 7 days
2018-04-15 (7 years ago)

The only survivor of the four cuttings is the one that was transfered earlier to the pot. Will leave the others for a few months to see if they make a come back.

...and then after 6 days
2018-04-21 (7 years ago)

Weekly update - no change.

...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 2" over the last 20 days.
2018-04-28 (7 years ago)

Looks like there's new growth on the leftmost (first potted) mulberry and the others are looking as dead as they were last week.

Height estimated from image.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 11"
...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 3" over the last 7 days.
2018-05-05 (7 years ago)

Although the left cutting is showing strong growth I think that this is still tenuous and it could go either way.

Height estimated based on image.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 1'2"
...and then after 19 days
2018-05-24 (7 years ago)

It's suddenly showing very strong growth. Very happy with this. Amazed that the roots must have taken. I'm wondering if having it under shade is helping. I have a similar Shangri La growing in the yard in full sun that is not growing as fast and was rooted a year earlier.

...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 6" over the last 25 days.
2018-05-30 (7 years ago)

This mulberry seems to have super charged growth. I regret that I didn't start measuring its height earlier. I was able to go back to previous images and do some height estimation to get some metrics around this.

There are three buds that are branching out of this cutting. The girth is measured between buds one and two with the counting starting at the bottom.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 1'8"
  • Girth (inches only): 1.3"
...and then after 10 days
  • The height has changed by 2" over the last 10 days.
2018-06-09 (7 years ago)

Growth measure.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 1'10"
...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 6 days.
2018-06-15 (7 years ago)

Now at 23 inches.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 1'11"
...and then after 8 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 8 days.
2018-06-23 (7 years ago)

Growth check.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'
...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 3" over the last 7 days.
2018-06-30 (7 years ago)

This is doing incredibly well in a pot under shade cloth with daily water.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'3"
...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 6 days.
2018-07-06 (7 years ago)

Weekly measure.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'4"
...and then after 23 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 23 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.5" over the last 60 days.
2018-07-29 (7 years ago)

Measured the girth just below the lowest branch. I was expecting more growth over this time period. I'm wondering if this is root bound by the pot. If that's the case then I might need to plant this in the fall instead of waiting until the spring.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'5"
  • Girth (inches only): 1.8"
...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 7 days.
2018-08-05 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'5"
...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 0.5" over the last 6 days.
2018-08-11 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'5.5"
...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 0.5" over the last 7 days.
2018-08-18 (7 years ago)

Weekly check-in.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'6"
...and then after 7 days
  • The height has changed by 1" over the last 7 days.
2018-08-25 (7 years ago)

Weekly metrics.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'7"
...and then after 19 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 19 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.1" over the last 46 days.
2018-09-13 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'7"
  • Girth (inches only): 1.9"
...and then after 10 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 10 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 10 days.
2018-09-23 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'7"
  • Girth (inches only): 1.9"
...and then after 7 days
2018-09-30 (7 years ago)

Today the cutting graduated from the pot to the ground. A little bit risky because winter is a few months away. I'm hoping that the new growth spurt it has on and the cooling temperatures will allow it to establish itself a bit. Double irrigation ring with 6 x 0.5 GPH emitters.

...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 3" over the last 13 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.1" over the last 13 days.
2018-10-06 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 2'10"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 3.5" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-10-20 (7 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1.5"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-11-03 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1.5"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by -0.5" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-11-17 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-12-01 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-12-15 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2018-12-29 (6 years ago)

Fortnightly measure.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
  • Leaf Shed Start: ✔
...and then after 6 days
2019-01-04 (6 years ago)
...and then after 8 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2019-01-12 (6 years ago)

Still hanging on to some leaves.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2019-01-26 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2"
  • Leaf Shed End: ✔
...and then after a month
2019-02-28 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • First Bud: ✔
...and then after 7 days
2019-03-07 (6 years ago)

Fruit starting to form.

...and then after a day
2019-03-08 (6 years ago)

Spread around 19 pounds of Arizona's Best Soil Sulphur at the base of these trees today.

This note applies to a total of 43 plants.
...and then after 2 days
  • The height has changed by 2" over the last 43 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.3" over the last 43 days.
2019-03-10 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'3"
  • Girth (inches only): 2.3"
...and then after 13 days
  • The height has changed by 6" over the last 13 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 13 days.
2019-03-23 (6 years ago)

Gone into a growth spurt.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 3'9"
  • Girth (inches only): 2.3"
...and then after 8 days
2019-03-31 (6 years ago)
  • All trees in the Northwest orchard.
  • Distributed 50 lbs of Tiger 90CR Sulfur pellets.
  • Mixed in 1 pints of Link P31 (8-31-5) Nitrogen/Phosphates and two-fifths of a tablespoon of Borax powder to add Boron in around 40 to 50 gallons of water in the gorilla card. There was only 1 pint of Link P31 solution left in the container but the bottom of the container had a bunch of stuff stuck to the bottom that I rinsed out and added so it was probably more like 2 pints.
  • Used the shower nozzle on the hose and watered the sulfur and Link P31 through the mulch.

This provides this part of the orchard (Northwest) which is 1,000 square feed with the following:

  • 0.5 pounds of Nitrogen
  • 2 pounds of Phosphate
  • 0.02 pounds of Boron
This note applies to a total of 17 plants.
...and then after 6 days
  • The height has changed by 4" over the last 14 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 14 days.
2019-04-06 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 4'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 2.3"
...and then after 6 days
2019-04-12 (6 years ago)

At the first mulberry off this tree today. Tasted good. While slightly green in taste it was mostly ripe.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 1
  • Harvest Start: ✔
...and then after 3 days
2019-04-15 (6 years ago)

Found another ripe mulberry.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 1
...and then after 4 days
  • The height has changed by 2" over the last 13 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.3" over the last 13 days.
2019-04-19 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 4'3"
  • Girth (inches only): 2.5"
...and then after 15 days
  • The height has changed by 11" over the last 15 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.3" over the last 15 days.
2019-05-04 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 2.8"
...and then after 5 days
2019-05-09 (6 years ago)

Harvest end. Marked down a total of around 60 fruit we got from this tree this year.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 60
  • Harvest End: ✔
...and then after 10 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 15 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.4" over the last 15 days.
2019-05-19 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.1"
...and then after 3 days
2019-05-22 (6 years ago)

Discovered an irrigation leak at this tree today. Rabbits bit through the poly tubing in 4 places. It was 6 emitters at 0.5 GPH double looped and replaced it with 8 emitters of 0.8 GPH and single loop around the tree.

...and then after 10 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 13 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.1" over the last 13 days.
2019-06-01 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.3"
...and then after a month
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 42 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 42 days.
2019-07-13 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.3"
...and then after 8 days
2019-07-21 (6 years ago)

Alive but not happy with the heat.

...and then after 12 days
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 20 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 20 days.
2019-08-02 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.3"
...and then after a month
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 36 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0" over the last 36 days.
2019-09-07 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.3"
...and then after a month
  • The height has changed by 0" over the last 29 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.1" over the last 29 days.
2019-10-06 (6 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 5'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 3.4"
...and then after 2 months
2019-12-21 (5 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Leaf Shed Start: ✔
...and then after 10 days
2019-12-31 (5 years ago)
...and then after 5 days
2020-01-05 (5 years ago)

Manually defoliated the rest of the leaves. Did a radical prune of all the bushing branches at the bottom and just left the leader with some branches coming off it. Hoping that this will divert all energy into making this a taller and bigger tree.

Metrics:
  • Leaf Shed End: ✔
...and then after a month
2020-02-01 (5 years ago)

Monterey Liqui-Cop Copper Fungicide - 1 fluid ounce per gallon of water. Made a total of 4 gallons for these trees.

This note applies to a total of 16 plants.
...and then after 16 days
2020-02-17 (5 years ago)

First bud.

Metrics:
  • First Bud: ✔
...and then after 14 days
2020-03-02 (5 years ago)

Fruit is starting to darken.

...and then after 8 days
2020-03-10 (5 years ago)

Spread 320 pounds of Arizona's Best Ammonium Sulfate around yard. Includes all trees tagged on this note which is about 95% of the trees in the orchard.

This note applies to a total of 106 plants.
...and then after 25 days
2020-04-04 (5 years ago)

Staked today to try and pull more vertical. Images are before and after.

...and then after 5 days
2020-04-09 (5 years ago)

At the first mulberry off this tree today. It was very nearly ripe. In the shade it looked black so I picked it before discovering there was still red in the color. Didn't taste too bad but was obviously not fully ripe yet.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 1
  • Harvest Start: ✔
...and then after 6 days
2020-04-15 (5 years ago)

These were tasty. If this tree survives it's going to produce a large volume of amazing tasting fruit.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 5
...and then after a day
2020-04-16 (5 years ago)

Loving the mulberries from this tree.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 5
...and then after 3 days
2020-04-19 (5 years ago)

Sprayed with Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron diluted at the recommended rate of 1 tablespoon with 1 gallon of water.

This note applies to a total of 39 plants.
...and then after 12 days
2020-05-01 (5 years ago)

Still producing tasty berries. I sometimes find that the Shangri La mulberries have a slightly metallic taste.

...and then after 9 days
2020-05-10 (5 years ago)

Sprayed with Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron diluted at the recommended rate of 1 tablespoon with 1 gallon of water.

This note applies to a total of 55 plants.
...and then after 3 days
2020-05-13 (5 years ago)

End of harvest.

Metrics:
  • Harvest End: ✔
...and then after 6 months
2020-11-22 (4 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Leaf Shed Start: ✔
...and then after a month
  • The height has changed by 11" over the last 455 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.8" over the last 455 days.
2021-01-03 (4 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 6'1"
  • Girth (inches only): 4.1"
...and then after 5 days
2021-01-08 (4 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Leaf Shed End: ✔
...and then after 24 days
2021-02-01 (4 years ago)

Pruned today and used the cuttings to root more trees. Details at Mulberry - Shangri La Cuttings 2021.

...and then after 8 days
2021-02-09 (4 years ago)
Metrics:
  • First Bud: ✔
...and then after 23 days
2021-03-04 (4 years ago)

A few hundred mulberries on this tree already.

...and then after 10 days
2021-03-14 (4 years ago)

Put 0.5 fluid ounces of Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron in a gallon of water and poured at base.

This note applies to a total of 25 plants.
...and then after 15 days
2021-03-29 (4 years ago)

Fruit it gaining some color.

...and then after 5 days
2021-04-03 (4 years ago)

Put 0.5 fluid ounces of Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron in a gallon of water and poured at base.

This note applies to a total of 23 plants.
...and then after 11 days
2021-04-14 (4 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Harvest Start: ✔
...and then after 7 days
2021-04-21 (4 years ago)

This image is from six varieties currently fruiting.

This note applies to a total of 8 plants.
...and then after 9 months
2022-01-11 (3 years ago)

Going into dormancy. I feel that this should be bigger by now.

A plant, tree, bush, shrub or vine
...and then after 2 months
2022-03-05 (3 years ago)

Put 0.5 fluid ounces of Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron in a gallon of water and poured at base.

This note applies to a total of 15 plants.
...and then after 8 days
2022-03-13 (3 years ago)

Spread 42 lbs of Monterey's Dr Iron product around the yard under every tree. Product is 55% sulfur and 22% iron.

This note applies to a total of 86 plants.
...and then after 2 months
2022-05-18 (3 years ago)

Placed white pot at base of tree today. Bottom is 10" wide and top opening is 5".

2022-05-18 (3 years ago)

Put 0.5 fluid ounces of Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron in a gallon of water and poured at base.

This note applies to a total of 8 plants.
...and then after 8 months
  • The height has changed by -1" over the last 742 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.5" over the last 742 days.
2023-01-15 (2 years ago)
Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 6'
  • Girth (inches only): 4.6"
...and then after a month
2023-02-21 (2 years ago)

Starting to leaf out.

Metrics:
  • First Bud: ✔
...and then after a month
2023-03-20 (2 years ago)

Spread Fertizona Furst Class 15-15-15 around the trees today. Used a handful for small trees and up to six handfuls for the larger trees. In total used 100 lbs.

This note applies to a total of 84 plants.
...and then after 22 days
2023-04-11 (2 years ago)

A splash (about 0.5 fluid ounces) of Southern Ag Chelated Liquid Iron in 5 gallons of water and poured at base.

This note applies to a total of 30 plants.
...and then after 6 days
2023-04-17 (2 years ago)

First mulberries of the season.

Metrics:
  • Harvest Count: 12
  • Harvest Start: ✔
...and then after 2 days
2023-04-19 (2 years ago)

Fruit at multiple stages of ripeness.

...and then after 9 months
2024-01-21 (a year ago)

Spread Fertizona Furst Class 15-15-15 around all the trees today. Used a total used 200 lbs of which about 25 lbs went on the grass.

This note applies to a total of 89 plants.
...and then after a month
2024-02-16 (a year ago)

Used the Chapin 20 gallon lawn sprayer to spray Southern Ag Chelated Iron at the base of these trees today. Diluted mixture 50/50 with water.

This note applies to a total of 17 plants.
...and then after 14 days
  • The height has changed by 2" over the last 411 days.
  • The girth has changed by 0.4" over the last 411 days.
2024-03-01 (a year ago)

Previously the irrigation around this tree was 8 x 0.8 GPH emitters. Today I changed that to 30 x 0.8 GPH emitters which is close to a 4 fold increase in the amount of water the tree will get. This is an experiment based on the "Lauren" one of these which gets a lot more water.

Metrics:
  • Height (inches only): 6'2"
  • Girth (inches only): 5"
...and then after 3 days
2024-03-04 (a year ago)

Sprinkled 15ml (cap) of Vigoro's Azalea, Camellia & Rhododendron Food (10-8-8) on the trees tagged in this note.

This note applies to a total of 21 plants.
...and then after 2 months
2024-05-18 (a year ago)

Sprayed with Polymer AG Anti-Stress 550. Made 4 gallons at a 2.5% dilution ratio and used the backpack sprayer. That amount perfectly covered the trees listed in this note. I was using a fairly course spray and I'm wondering if this product would perform better with a fine spray setting.

This note applies to a total of 47 plants.

Harvest Summary

Found back-to-back harvest start dates on 2021-04-14 and 2023-04-17 without a harvest end date between them.
StartEndDaysEst. Total CountEst. Total WeightAverage Weight
2019-04-122019-05-092862
2020-04-092020-05-133511
2021-04-14* still harvesting *1475
2023-04-17* still harvesting *74212

* If weights or counts are missing then estimates are based on metrics that are collected when both of these are present. If both weight and count is always recorded then the estimates are actual values even though the title says estimate.

** In seasons where weight or count was not collected then the averages from all other seasons will be used to estimate these figures. In those cases there will not be an Average Weight.

Leaf Shed Summary

StartEndDays
2018-12-292019-01-2629
2019-12-212020-01-0516
2020-11-222021-01-0848

First Bud Observed

Date
2019-02-28
2020-02-17
2021-02-09
2023-02-21